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Another corset, another hoop, another chemise and drawers, and probably white ones too, not black (which I&#8217;d use again). *sigh* I guess my spiderweb-print victorian corset won&#8217;t fly, but I could make a black one, because I&#8217;ve seen photos of black ones (and my dress is dark, yay). Hmm &#8230; what about the hoop? I have a basic black bridal hoop. Should I make a more period one?<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ll do it all if that&#8217;s the group&#8217;s goal. But it just takes me for freakin&#8217; ever. Unlike the rest of you, I will definitely need the full 2 years to finish this thing!<\/p>\n<p>Also, I&#8217;m not wholly clear on how accurate the stitching has to be. Reading over the CC23 rules, it says &#8216;hand-sewing the whole outfit isn&#8217;t necessary,&#8217; but also repeats that you must use period techniques. I don&#8217;t have a serger and hardly use zig-zag, so I wouldn&#8217;t do that anyway (heh, as if I ever finish seams!). 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